Friday, October 30, 2009

Douglas Wilson admits Christianity is appalling if God doesn't exist

The movie Collision is out on DVD, featuring a debate between Christopher Hitchens and Pastor Douglas Wilson about whether religion is good for the world.  They discuss the film on FOX and Friends:

Think about what Wilson says:

If Jesus didn't come back from the dead, then Christianity is appalling.  It's an appalling fraud and a delusion, and every unbeliever ought to attack it.

If it's not objectively true, then I don't have any more use for it than Christopher does.

The beliefs and practices of Christianity are appalling based on strictly human judgement.  He admits this.  But because Jesus is the Son of God, the Bible supersedes our reasoning.

For anyone who believes that religion is good for the world even if god doesn't exist, this is what religion can do.  It can cause an otherwise rational person (which Pastor Wilson appears to be), who knows that their belief system is morally repugnant under the microscope of rational thought, to follow it anyway, all because of a 2000 year old book of mythology.


  1. I think you need to listen to it again. Wilson is saying that Christianity, if not true, is appalling because people are encouraged to live and die for a lie. He is also saying, however that Christianity is true and it is the only religion that invites historical scrutiny because it is based on a historical figure. Don't suspend your reasoning. Study the historical texts and then make up your own mind.

    I would encourage you to read this and then tell me what is repugnant about this moral direction.

  2. Christianity "invites" historical scrutiny because every aspect of the Bible has been at one point or another interpreted to fit historical fact, except of course for the statement that Jesus was the Son of God, which can never be proven or disproven. It hinges entirely on that statement(according to Pastor Wilson and Im sure 99.99% of Christians) and essentially ruins the debate by refusing to follow the rules of logic. When it comes to denying the virgin birth, miracles, and resurrection, Christians always have and always will stick their fingers in their ears and screamed 'I CANT HEAR YOU' at the top of their lungs.

  3. I'm not sure what the relevance of your blog post is, Makarios. No one doubts that one can cherry-pick verses from the Bible and choose interpretations to make any point you want. Its an internally inconsistent book (which is no surprise, considering the manner in which the stories were written, collected, copied and translated).

  4. Its also important to realize that regardless of the contents of the Bible, the actions of churches over the past 2000 years have been discriminatory towards women.